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		<title>The Truth About Love</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Dienno-Demarest]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever had one of those random moments in life—personal or professional—when someone asks you something, and when you open your mouth to respond, you’re amazed by the profound insight that comes out?  You know you said it, but the wisdom had to have come from God? Well, years ago, while teaching in Austin, [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/painters-550x267.png" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="Painters" /></p><p>Have you ever had one of those random moments in life—personal or professional—when someone asks you something, and when you open your mouth to respond, you’re amazed by the profound insight that comes out?  You know <em>you</em> said it, but the wisdom had to have come from God?</p>
<p>Well, years ago, while teaching in Austin, I took a group of students to work at an orphanage in Mexico.  In addition to showering the children with attention and affection, we did a bunch of home-improvement style projects – from cleaning to painting to repairs.  The poverty was staggering. While we helped both physically and financially, it was abundantly clear that our charity was not going to bring about a real and lasting change.</p>
<p>That evening, we did the Mission-Trip-Circle-Up conversation to discuss and process our day.  One student, Travis, was extremely conflicted: “I feel really good about myself, but I feel guilty for feeling that way.  We have so much, and they have so little.  It just doesn’t make any sense; I don’t like the fact that I feel so good about myself.”</p>
<p>I suggested to Travis that “feeling good” was not reflecting some kind of “superiority,” but rather he felt good because he was participating in true <em>agapic </em>love.  In the Gospel of John, Jesus called us to love one another as he loved us; to participate in <em>agape</em>.  This was not a “to-do-list” task, but an <strong>invitation</strong>.  The act of selfless giving in service (and in love) <em>feels great</em> because in it, we experience the divine.</p>
<p>And it doesn’t matter which kind of love we’re talking about: <em>philia </em>(friendship love), <em>eros</em> (passionate love), <em>storge</em> (family affection), or <em>agape</em> (unconditional giving of oneself for the good of another).</p>
<p>What a profound “<em>God-is-love</em>” truth.</p>
<h2 align="center"><em>The act of selfless giving in love feels great because in it, </em></h2>
<h2 align="center"><em>we experience the divine.</em></h2>
<p>For some reason, when talking about love, it’s a lot easier to get our heads around what love means when we take romance out of the equation.  But this same dynamic of <em>selfless-giving-feeling-great</em> applies to all four loves.</p>
<p>Allow me to explain:</p>
<p>Remember Erich Fromm’s definition of love (from <em>Art of Loving</em> 19)?  I concluded my <a title="I Need You to Need Me" href="http://www.diennodemarest.com/2011/08/24/i-need-you-to-need-me/" target="_blank">post on dependency (I Need You to Need Me)</a>, with this:</p>
<h3 style="text-align:center;"> <em>Mature Love “is union under the condition of preserving one’s integrity” or individuality.</em></h3>
<p>If we were to diagram that one, it would be two stick figures choosing to come together to hold hands, maintaining their integrity, freely capable of individuality.  This “pattern” can <em>and should</em> apply to all four kinds of love.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-200" title="Mature Love" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/mature-love.jpg?w=300" width="300" height="253" /></p>
<p>In all four types of love, one can <em>and should</em> be able to give <em>of </em>oneself without giving <em>up </em>one’s identity.</p>
<p>Going on, Fromm names four basic elements that are common to all types of love:  Care, Responsibility, Respect, and Knowledge.</p>
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<li><strong>Care</strong> – When we care about someone or something, we are concerned for their well-being.  When we don’t care, we don’t love.</li>
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				<strong> <em>Care “is the active concern for the life and the growth of that which we love</em>”</strong> (<em>Art of Loving </em>24).</div>
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<li><strong>Responsibility</strong> – Instead of limiting our understanding to some assigned “duty,” Fromm goes to the root of the word:</li>
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				<strong>“<em>Responsibility, in its true sense, is an entirely voluntary act; it is my response to the needs, expressed or unexpressed, of another human being.  To be ‘responsible’ means to be able and ready to ‘respond’”  </em></strong>(25).</div>
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<li><strong>Respect</strong> – Without the element of respect, the element of responsibility “could easily deteriorate into domination and possessiveness” (26).</li>
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				<strong><em>Respect is the ability to see a person as they are, to be aware of their unique individuality</em></strong> (26).</div><br />
It’s about respecting the person’s human dignity – in <em>God’s</em> image (not <em>your</em> image).  This means allowing the other person to grow and unfold as they are (not as you would have them become…even if you have the best of intentions).<br />
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				<strong><em>If I love the other person, I feel one with them, but with them as they are, not as I need them </em></strong><strong><em>to be</em></strong> (26).</div></p>
<p>Love means letting people be free to be who they are, right now.</p>
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<li><strong>Knowledge</strong> – As we seek to become closer with people—friends and family as well as our beloved—we come to see how many layers there are to truly knowing someone.  Knowledge of a person is key to real, mature love.</li>
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				<strong>We all have had “<em>THAT</em> conversation” with someone, and we recognize it as a turning point in a relationship – be it as friends or lovers.</strong></div><br />
Fromm points out that “Care, responsibility, respect and knowledge are mutually interdependent.”  They are all attitudes found in love, and they are each needed to balance one another.<br />
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				<strong><em>“To respect a person is not possible without knowing him; care and responsibility would be blind if they were not guided by knowledge. Knowledge would be empty if it were not motivated by concern” </em></strong>(26).</div><br />
So then love is all these things:</p>
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<li><em>Agape, Eros, Storge, Philia</em></li>
<li>The will to extend one’s self for the purpose of nurturing one’s own or another’s spiritual growth – M. Scott Peck</li>
<li>Union under the condition of preserving one’s integrity and individuality, practiced with care, responsibility, respect, and knowledge – Erich Fromm</li>
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<p>Love is all of this and more.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/editor/2619094658">Painters</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/editor/">Bart Everson</a> licensed under <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/">CC BY 2.0</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Dienno-Demarest]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Within a week of starting college I met a guy and completely fell in love. It was not only a textbook example of the what-not-to-do insights offered in You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling, but it would serve as my introduction to the dynamic of dependency. When I excitedly told my favorite high school teacher about [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/figures-holding-hands-550x287.png" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="figures-holding-hands" /></p><p>Within a week of starting college I met a guy and completely <em>fell in love</em>.</p>
<p>It was not only a textbook example of the what-not-to-do insights offered in <strong><em><a title="You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling" href="http://www.diennodemarest.com/2011/08/22/you%e2%80%99ve-lost-that-lovin%e2%80%99-feeling/" target="_blank">You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling</a></em></strong>, but it would serve as my introduction to the dynamic of dependency.</p>
<p>When I excitedly told my favorite high school teacher about my new-found sweetheart, I thought his response was rather odd: “Ah, you’ve found yourself a symbiotic partner.”  The boyfriend, a biology major, thought for a moment and explained, “Well, symbiosis is a mutually beneficial relationship between a parasite and a host… which is an unusual way of describing our relationship, but they need each other… and so do we.”  And I’m pretty sure we felt affirmed by that description of our relationship.</p>
<p>Retelling this story, I feel a little like an audience member in a horror flick, wanting to scream: “RUN!”</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><strong><em>I need you.  I cannot be happy without you</em></strong>.</h2>
<p>When M. Scott Peck discusses the misconception that dependency is love, he describes it as parasitic, and focuses on the lack of freedom.<br />
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				“It is a matter of necessity rather than love.  Love is the free exercise of choice.  Two people love each other only when they are quite capable of living without each other but <em>choose</em> to live with each other.” (<em>The Road Less Traveled, </em>98)</div><br />
When talking about dependency, my favorite author to reference is <a href="http://www.erich-fromm.de/e/index.htm" target="_blank">Erich Fromm</a> (d. 1980).   Fromm was a German social psychologist and philosopher who wrote the international bestseller <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061129739/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=momiandmore-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=0061129739" target="_blank">The Art of Loving</a></em> in 1956.  Like Peck, Fromm never actually uses the Greek term, but definitely talks about “Mature Love” in the <em><a title="Agape (pronounced both as AH-GAH-PAY and AH-GAP-EE) One of the four Greek words for love, described by C.S. Lewis in The Four Loves.  Agape is the unconditional giving of oneself—selflessly—for the good of another." href="http://www.diennodemarest.com/2011/08/14/love-love-love/" target="_blank">agapic</a></em> sense, as a skill that can be taught and developed.</p>
<p>What I really appreciate about Fromm’s work is the detail with which he describes the dynamic of dependency, or <em>Symbiotic Union</em>.  There is a <em>passive</em> form of <em>symbiotic union</em> (the submissive, dependent person) and an <em>active</em> form (the dominant, co-dependent person).</p>
<p>The <em>passive</em>, submissive, dependent person escapes from the unbearable feeling of isolation and loneliness by <em>symbiotically</em> becoming part and parcel of another person who directs, guides, and protects them (<em>The Art of Loving, </em>18).</p>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>I am nothing without you</em>; <em>I feel special because you care so much about me</em></strong>.</h2>
<p>The <em>active</em>, dominant, co-dependent person escapes from the isolation and loneliness by <em>symbiotically</em> making another person part and parcel of himself (or herself, as it were).  The ego is enhanced, especially since the <em>passive </em>person worships their <em>symbiotic </em>partner (Ibid).</p>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>I need you to need me; it makes me feel special to be so needed.</em></strong></h2>
<p>The thing to remember here is that <strong><em>both</em></strong> the <em>active</em> person and the <em>passive</em> person are dependent on each other.  They <strong><em>both</em></strong> need each other.  No one is being <em>forced</em> into submissive roles here, and this mutually beneficial arrangement—where everyone’s needs are being met—is a large part of that initial attraction.</p>
<p>Post-college, I attended an adult-enrichment workshop in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia in which the speaker described six different patterns of unhealthy relationships.  Asking for two volunteers, she had the “couple” kinesthetically demonstrate the different patterns she described.  I found the activity to be profoundly enlightening and came to use it in my classroom with teenagers.  It fleshes out Fromm’s explanation of the <em>symbiotic union</em> with relatable examples.</p>
<p>What follows is my uber-sophisticated stick figure representation of the bodily positions and corresponding description.</p>
<p><strong>Patterns of Dependency in Unhealthy Relationships</strong></p>
<p><strong>1.  A-Frame</strong> – The kinesthetic set-up here may be difficult to see in the form of a stick-figure drawing: both people are leaning on/into each other, each putting their full body weight upon the other.  Their bodies are slanted towards each other like the sides of the letter “A.”</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-157" title="A-Frame" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/a-frame.jpg?w=150" width="150" height="114" /></p>
<p>The people in this relationship are incapable of functioning independently; even if one attempts to do so, the other will literally fall without their partner’s support.</p>
<p><strong>2.  Smothering</strong> – The kinesthetic set-up has the two hugging closely…and never letting go.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-158" title="Smothering" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/smothering.jpg?w=94" width="94" height="150" /></p>
<p>The people in this relationship may be physically (overly affectionate) or emotionally smothering.  These are the couples whose identities have become so merged that those around them refer to them as a unit (recall “Bennifer” or the teen couple from the Zits comic strip known as “Rickandamy”).</p>
<p><strong>3.  Master-Slave</strong> – Kinesthetically, one stands firmly while the other is on hands-and-knees.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-159" title="Master-Slave" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/master-slave.jpg?w=150" width="150" height="118" /></p>
<p>There are clear <em>active</em> (dominant) and <em>passive</em> (submissive) roles in this relationship.  One is the “boss” while the other willingly follows orders.  Remember no one <em>forces</em> their partner into a role; the “slave” <em>needs</em> the guidance of the “master” as much as the “master” <em>needs</em> the “slave.”</p>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>You don’t know her like I do.</em></strong></h2>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>He cares so much about me, it makes me feel so special</em></strong>.</h2>
<p><strong>4.  Pedestal</strong> – The kinesthetic set-up here has one standing atop a chair or desk while the other stands on the floor, <em>looking up to</em> their elevated partner.<br />
<img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-160" title="Pedestal" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/pedestal.jpg?w=127" width="127" height="150" /></p>
<p>In this relationship, the (elevated) “hero” <em>helps</em> the (lowly) “troubled” person, which often involves saving “troubled” from some sort of crisis.  Initially, “hero” feels great with all the self-satisfaction involved in helping someone, and “troubled” feels incredibly cared for.</p>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>I love who you are becoming.</em></strong></h2>
<p>This dynamic becomes problematic if one of the two attempts to break out of their prescribed <strong><em>unequal </em></strong>roles.  While “troubled” may certainly <em>worship</em> “hero,” it is important to note that “hero” may not necessarily desire these unequal roles in the relationship.  It’s not just up to “hero” to step down; “troubled” also needs to stop putting “hero” up on the pedestal.  Ironically, resentment over the unequal roles in this relationship is usually the reason for its demise.</p>
<p><strong>5. Contract</strong> – Kinesthetically, the two are back-to-back and interlock elbows.  Then, they each attempt to walk in the direction they are facing… constant conflict ensues.<br />
<img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-161" title="Contract" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/contract.jpg?w=150" width="150" height="147" /><br />
The parties in this relationship have long since <em>lost that lovin’ feeling</em>, and have somehow managed to come to an (often unspoken) agreement to just stay together.  This couple is constantly fighting or bickering, but never actually works on any of their problems.  They prefer being unhappily together to being alone.  Stuck in the comfortable rut of their relationship, they need each other so that they’re not alone.</p>
<p>I used to think that this pattern applied mostly to older, married couples (staying together “for the kids”).  However, the teens I taught quickly pointed out that many of their peers were in these relationships.  A fear of loneliness can prompt a person to do ridiculous things.</p>
<p><strong>6. Martyr</strong> – The kinesthetic set-up has one lying on the floor while the other stands nearby.<br />
<img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-162" title="Martyr" alt="" src="http://www.diennodemarest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/martyr.jpg?w=150" width="150" height="103" /><br />
The <em>martyr</em> willingly sacrifices their own needs and desires for the sake of the “standing partner,” often enabling the “standing partner’s” own unhealthy behavior.  The <em>martyr’s </em>actions appear incredibly generous, and the “standing partner” benefits from all the attention.</p>
<h2 align="center"><strong><em>I do so much for you!</em></strong></h2>
<p>At first glance, the “standing partner” looks to be in charge, but the <em>martyr</em> controls this relationship.  How?  Perhaps by manipulating through passive-aggressive guilt, by quietly punishing the other by chronically being late or forgetting things, sulking when things don’t go their way, blaming others for their failures, playing mind games, and so on.</p>
<p>When I discussed <a title="M. Scott Peck defines love as &quot;the will to extend one’s self for the purpose of nurturing one’s own or another’s spiritual growth&quot; (The Road Less Traveled. New York: Simon &amp; Schuster, 1978, 81)." href="http://www.diennodemarest.com/2011/08/17/what-do-you-mean/" target="_blank">Peck’s definition of love</a> (in <a title="What Do You Mean?" href="http://www.diennodemarest.com/2011/08/17/what-do-you-mean/" target="_blank">What Do You Mean?</a>), I made a comment that it’s often difficult to understand why self-love is so important without discussing dependency.  Well, here we are: A person who does not have self-love is like <em>half a person</em> who is looking for another <em>half a person</em> to <em>fill the void within</em> and make them whole.  (Side note: <em>THIS </em>is what is <em>SO WRONG </em>with that oft quoted line from the movie <em>Jerry Maguire</em>, “You complete me.”  But I digress.)That’s not a “gift of one’s self.”  That’s dependency, not love.</p>
<p>You were created in the image and likeness of God.  You have human dignity.  Love extends from this gift of wholeness and dignity.</p>
<p>Erich Fromm incorporates self-love into his definition (emphasis in the original, <em>Art of Loving</em> 19):</p>
<h2 style="text-align:center;"><strong><em>Mature Love</em></strong> “<em>is union under the condition of preserving one’s integrity</em>” <em>or individuality</em>.</h2>
<p>Giving <em>of</em> yourself does not mean giving <em>up</em> your identity.</p>
<p>Know yourself, be yourself, love yourself, and share that amazing self with another person.</p>
<p>THAT is love.</p>
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